Nuclear decommissioning costs amount to €66 billion in UK alone
The nuclear industry’s ‘Foratom’ blog recently criticised EWEA’s argument in a recent report that “massive subsidies to fossil fuels and nuclear energy…. remain the rule”.
Foratom instead claimed that “it is renewable energies, especially wind and solar energy that are the most systematically subsidised forms of energy, not nuclear energy.”
Foratom then set out some of the subsidies renewables receive. The highest figure they quote is “In Germany, total subsidies amount to €5 billion per year”.
But Foratom does not mention the massive amounts of public money set aside for nuclear decommissioning. €5 billion is a trivial sum compared to the money the UK Government has set aside just for nuclear decommissioning.
Former UK Energy Secretary Chris Huhne said in October 2011 “the provisions for nuclear decommissioning costs in total were £2 million in 1970, £472 million in 1980, £9.5 billion in 1990, £22.5 billion in 2000. And now, £53.7 billion.”
EWEA did a calculation to see how much wind energy you could get for the £53.7 billion set aside only for decommissioning the UK’s nuclear power stations.
A similar investment in onshore wind energy in the UK would result in 53 GW, producing 140 TWh of electricity or about 40% of UK total electricity consumption. Current nuclear production in the UK is around 62 TWh, meeting 18% of power demand.
And that’s not the end of the subsidies. According to the former Minister the UK spends £2.4 billion a year cleaning up nuclear waste. “That is £2 billion a year, year in and year out, that we are continuing to pay for electricity that was consumed in the 50s, 60s and 70s on a false prospectus,” said Huhne.
Foratom also write that “so-called “nuclear subsidies” through research and development…..seem rather insignificant”.
They might not seem much for Foratom but they are a lot more than renewables get! According to the OECD/IEA Clean Energy Progress Report 2011 governments in 23 leading nations (including 8 EU members) spent $56 billion on nuclear R&D 2000-2010 compared to just $16 billion on all renewables (and ‘renewables’ are many technologies: wind, solar, tidal, wave, geothermal etc).
There is also a puzzling contradiction in Foratom’s blog. First it claims, “today nuclear energy is competitive in the internal energy market without requiring public financial support.” Later in the same article it says, “because the initial capital cost of nuclear power is relatively high, long-term guaranteed price for electricity are probably the best way to make investment in nuclear attractive enough”. Surely if it is competitive in the market it doesn’t need a guaranteed price?
The reality is that building onshore wind energy is a very considerably cheaper way to produce electricity than new nuclear, and Governments could save themselves a lot of subsidies, and hasten the phasing out of subsidies for mature renewables (including onshore wind) if they removed the much higher and longer-standing subsidies for fossil fuels and nuclear.






I am not as familiar with provisions for decommissioning in the UK as I am with the provisions in the US. Here, every nuclear electricity production facility is required by law to put aside sufficient funds for decommissioning out of the revenues generated by the facility. These funds are subject to regulatory review every few years and the companies are required to make adjustments depending on market conditions. No public funds are used at all.
We do, however, spend several billion dollars every year on “nuclear decommissioning” and clean up costs at national weapons production facilities that have nothing at all to do with electricity production. Is it possible that the EWEA figures above include government expenditures for similar weapons related activities?
Rod Adams
Publisher, Atomic Insights
A little dose of non-idealistic reality here:
http://canadianenergyissues.com/2012/08/29/another-day-another-wind-power-let-down-in-ontario/
Dear EWEA,
I came here to follow the discussion between your organisation and Foratom about subsidies I heard that was taking place here. I can’t seem to find it, neither here nor at the Foratom blog. Can you please post a link so that me and other interested people can read about it?
Thank you!
Here is a link to the Foratom blog – the post we are referring to is called “”To subsidise or not to subsidise: that is the question”.
http://blog.foratom.org/
Dear mr. Rowe,
Thanks for referring me to the Foratom blog, but I’d already been there. I thought there was a discussion taking place here in the responses section below the original post with more details about the subsidies to the two industries. I see a couple of comments now, are there more that I can’t see yet?
BTW, the link in James Greenidge’s post is almost invisible, it looks like it’s been dimmed by the moderator. If that is so, can you please give it a normal visibility so people can follow it?
Hello,
No, the EWEA blog is a response to the Foratom blog – there haven’t been any comments on the original post yet, as far as I can see.
Thanks for pointing that out about the links – we have fixed that issue now.
Regards
Tom Rowe
Web Editor
EWEA
Dear Rod Adams,
Huhne was very clearly talking about nuclear energy in his role of Energy Minister:
http://royalsociety.tv/rsExternalPlayer.aspx?presentationid=1006
Regards,
Zoë Casey
EWEA Blog Editor
Dear all,
If you want to read FORATOM Blog article about energy subsidies, please click on the following link: http://blog.foratom.org/. The link EWEA indicated is indeed not visible. You are also very welcome to post a comment on FORATOM Blog. FORATOM will reply in due course to EWEA Blog article.
Regards,
Daphné Charleton
Communciations Manager
FORATOM
Is this article serious?
The “€66 billion” covers costs for a span of generating electricity that goes back to 1956 and generated over five and a half times the amount of electricity as wind in the UK during 2010.
A €5 billion yearly subsidy over that amount of time would come to €280.
And why do you always overestimate the capacity factor of wind installations? Your back-of-the-envelope calculation for the amount of electricity generated by your hypothetical onshore wind energy “investment” assumes an insanely high capacity factor of 30%, a number that flies in the face of reality.
For example, by the end of 2009, there was about 4.4 GW of wind capacity in the UK. During 2010, wind generated about 10 TWh of electricity, for a capacity factor of slightly higher than 26%. But then again, I’m deliberately overestimating this capacity factor, because an additional 900 MW of wind capacity (an increase of over 21%) was added during the course of the year and obviously contributed to the electricity generated in 2010. The real capacity factor is probably closer to less than 24%.
Before you accuse me of being pedantic or focusing on the trivial, I should point out that the difference between your figure and the figure calculated using a 24% capacity factor is about 30 TWh, or about three times the amount of electricity that wind currently produces in the UK in a year.
Fundamental to this issue is the fact that the UK cleanup program relates to facilities built as part of a 50-year national program of research, development and power generation. As the planner, architect and owner of the program, the state is an entirely appropriate body to pay for its decommissioning.
As you note, the program costs about £2 billion per year. About half of this comes from the operating profit from those state-owned nuclear fuel cycle facilities.
Jeremy Gordon
Director for Current Affairs
World Nuclear Association
Dear Zoe Casey
Chris Huhne has long been opposed to the use of nuclear energy and frequently railed about its supposedly high costs when his party was in opposition.
Yes, he has recently taken a slightly different position on the matter, but that is largely a matter of recognizing that nuclear energy production can pay for itself and supply a large quantity of reliable, emission free power. Like many other government officials, he is also looking at the nuclear industry as a potential source of revenue that might be able to take on some of the legacy costs that the government has accumulated through its weapons related programs that only funded a part of the cost — ignoring any real provisions for clean up.
http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-huhne-far-from-clear-on-nuclear/8230
PS – for whatever reason, links in comments on this site are still appearing as nearly white text in my browser (Chrome). I think you might want to choose another link color in your display settings.
There is a solid reason why nuclear energy developers are interested in the establishment of a stable market price for their product.
The leaders of the nuclear industry can look at history to recognize that the competitive natural gas industry has the ability to sell its product at a loss for several years in a row in order to drive down market prices and disable its competition. That is possible because there really is no isolated “natural gas” or “methane” industry — the suppliers are also oil companies because both products come out of the same holes in the ground.
If the petroleum producers cannot find a market for their gas, they still have to get rid of it somehow. The cheapest disposal method is to simply burn it off; the most expensive approach is to inject it back into the reservoir.
When the gas industry is able to kill off its competition, it sets itself up for a boom in profits because customers, once hooked, have a hard time shifting to another power source once the price starts rising. Eventually, the high prices result in another round of investment in alternatives like nuclear, but the cycle can continue, resulting in large losses at the newly developed alternatives while the gas companies have their oil revenues to support the temporarily low prices.
Here in the US, we have had the “luxury” of about four years of extremely low natural gas prices. The nuclear renaissance that was gaining steam before 2008 has just about died out with only four reactors actually moving forward out of the 30 or so that were once in serious planning.
Surprise, surprise, natural gas prices have started to rise again, with a 75% increase from the low point. (The low was just under $2 per MMBTU, the current price is $3.52 per MMBTU at one of our largest trading hubs.)
Rod Adams
Publisher, Atomic Insights
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Dear Julian
I think you should take a look at this post written by the UK Nuclear Industry Association http://uknuclear.wordpress.com/2012/10/24/. It contains a direct response to many of the points you have raised. Put simply, it is the UK government’s responsibility to pay for legacy waste and decommissioning, not nuclear operator EDF Energy which runs the country’s privatised nuclear fleet. This therefore cannot be interpreted as a subsidy to industry and you cannot ‘remove’ it. The waste comes from both the historic civil and military program and is particularly burdensome because of the choice of technology involved. This technology will not be used in the country’s next round of reactors.
Best Regards,
David
If you are interested in the details of EU research funding on “nuclear” energy and the split between realistic nuclear fission and absurd expenditures on nuclear fusion “pie in the sky”, here is a good source:
http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NP-EU_to_raise_nuclear_research_spending-0111124.html